15 regrets from 15 years of professional podcasting.
Thank you for joining me for The Audacity to Podcast. I'm Daniel J. Lewis. As the Audacity
to Podcast celebrates 15 years of professional podcasting, I invite you to take a critical look
back at the biggest mistakes I've made and things I wish I did differently with my show
and the business around my show. My hope is that this will inspire you to either fix these things
early for yourself or avoid them altogether. If you'd like to follow along in the notes for this
episode, there's a simple tap or swipe away or at theaudacitytopodcast.com/15 regrets. And
I'll have a bunch of links that you might want to check out in this episode as well. Even though
I published the first episode of The Audacity to Podcast 15 years ago now, on June 17th, 2010.
I've actually been podcasting longer than that. I published my first ever episode in April 2007,
but I consider The Audacity to Podcast to be when I really took podcasting seriously and even
professionally. Besides the first and last items on this list, the following regrets are in no
particular order. And to keep this episode shorter, I'll let you figure out how to apply each of these
to yourself and to your own podcast. But please let me know if you'd like more information about
any of these in a future episode. Starting with regret number one, this is the obvious one you
can probably guess, my hiatuses. This is the biggest regret about my podcast. The embarrassingly
long hiatuses I've taken. It started in late 2017 when I suddenly disappeared due to a devastating
family emergency. And the long times away since then have been multiple shockwaves from my world
being turned upside down. But here's what's difficult to confess. I could have returned to
the mic sooner, if not for my own head junk. It was a mix of imposter syndrome, self-doubt,
unnecessary distractions, some level of perfectionism, self-criticism, and even some
fear and laziness. It cost me a lot of opportunities, audience, and influence, and even cost me a lot of
income. And even though I mention income, please hear me clearly that I am not bringing back the
Audacity to Podcast for money. Instead, I'm finally taking the steps against my negative head junk and
stepping back into a burning passion to continue educating and inspiring you. Regret number two,
not building an email list sooner. You probably hear this one so often from entrepreneurs that
you're sick of it, but hear me out. This isn't just for marketers and entrepreneurs. Even if
you podcast only for the fun of it, there are plenty of great ways that you can use an email
list no matter why you're podcasting. I did a whole episode covering many different ways. Go
if you want to learn more. But for example, you can use an email list to provide actionable
information from your podcast episodes to your audience because it's easier to click a link in
an email than it is on a podcast. You could get more personal with your audience or solicit
feedback you can share in your podcast in an upcoming episode. You could get to know your
audience and yes, even promote things to your audience. Even if you do your podcast only for
fun. It is fine to promote things and maybe make some money with those promotions. And speaking of
email and promotions, regret number three, not promoting my episodes via email. I've frequently
recommended against using an email list only to promote your latest episodes. Try and give more
value than that. But my regret is that I didn't promote my latest episodes in my emails at all.
I often think about creating an additional email list solely for the sake of providing my full notes and links to you so you can easily take action on anything that I mention in the podcast even after you delete the podcast episode from your podcast app.
No having to bookmark anything or keep it unplayed until you can take action on it.
Something like that where I could just email the notes to you automatically.
But I've not even been good at simply including an auto-updating widget in any of my emails.
nothing from my email list or my personal emails. Granted, part of this is because my current email
service provider, ActiveCampaign, uses an outdated RSS validator that chokes on valid RSS feeds.
The actual podcast RSS feeds with completely valid tags, their validator says, nope, not valid,
and so it just doesn't work, or at least the last time I tested it a few months ago. And I still
actually haven't corrected this, but please let me know if you'd be interested in receiving my
episode notes via email automatically after I publish my episodes. Moving on to regret number
four, pursuing the wrong business. I started the Audacity podcast in 2010 when I was still
full-time employed. The job I had was my dream job, but I burned out, largely due to some bad
choices on my part. I was looking for an exit, and I had this childhood dream of running my own
business. But I didn't see how I could grow a business until after I had already launched the
Audacity to Podcast because I never intended it to become a business. I just wanted to talk about
podcasting. I felt like I had something to say in the space. But then I started connecting the pieces.
But I still had the wrong business in mind. Because I was a web designer and many different
roles of a designer in my previous job at that time, and I enjoyed designing websites. I thought,
podcasters need websites, and I'll be the guy to make them. But I seriously misjudged the market,
especially since there weren't many people who wanted to pay the prices I was charging for
completely custom-designed websites. I did not want to use the same template on multiple sites.
I wanted every site to look completely different so that my portfolio would look different and
everyone who gets a site would have something completely custom, unlike anyone else's site.
And not many people were interested in that. Maybe if you followed me long enough, maybe you were
even interested in hiring me to design a website at one point and decided not to. When I had my
last web design client a few years after starting my business full time, I really didn't want the
web design client at that time. It wasn't because of them or the kind of website. It was just the
work. I didn't want to do that work. So I quoted them a kind of high price that would make it worth
my time. I wasn't trying to rob them or anything like that, but it was high compared to my other
quotes that I gave. I was thinking, oh, they'll turn it down. But dang it, they accepted that
quote and without any negotiation. Maybe I should have asked for more. I don't know. But I dragged
my feet on that project because my heart wasn't in that kind of work anymore. They eventually fired
me. And it even unfortunately hurt a friendship at that time. But when I got that email telling
me I was fired, I was actually relieved. And that is when I realized I couldn't design websites for
other people anymore. I shouldn't do it anymore because I dreaded it so much. And I think it was
shortly after that narrowing down of my focus for my business, that my business started growing
much better because it was then the right business for me. And building on top of that, regret number
five, not creating enough training products. Even after I realized the right business for me,
I still didn't leverage it enough. I should have created more digital products like courses,
ebooks, group coaching, and more. But I didn't. And to this day, I still don't have my own how
to podcast course, which is something I still very much want to create. But the courses I did create,
SEO for Podcasters, which was the first ever podcast SEO training, and Zoom H6 for Podcasters,
both of those were very well received. And I'm still very happy with their production quality,
even though I no longer promote my SEO course because about one third of it or so is outdated.
Nonetheless, I could have and should have created much more. I could have created software products
too or hired someone to do them for me, but more on that in a little bit. Regret number six,
waiting too long to register my trademark. Oh, let me tell you my tale of woe. I've claimed and
defended The Audacity to Podcast as my own trademark for many years and indicated that
with the unregistered trademark symbol. That's the TM, that's superscript after the thing that
you're indicating as a trademark. A registered trademark gets to use the R with a circle around
that. But if it's not registered, you don't get to use the R with the circle around it.
And after more than 10 years of my using that trademark and claiming it as my own trademark,
and even defending it as a trademark. I finally decided to hire my friend, Gordon Firemark,
who, by the way, is one of the very, very, very few people who have ever been a guest
on The Audacity to Podcast. So I finally decided to hire him as my business lawyer and to help me
officially register the trademark. But after 10 years of my exclusive use, we discovered
someone else filed for a very similar trademark only a few months before we did. And sure enough,
our two filings were too similar to each other for the United States Patent and Trademark Office,
or the USPTO, to grant both of our trademarks. So that began a costly process. The other party's
trademark was actually not very good. It wasn't very distinctive. And I offered them suggestions
and even free consulting so they could not only have a better trademark, but a better launch and
a better business overall. But they wouldn't budge. Then my lawyer offered an agreement to coexist,
which as I understand it, would have allowed us to both have our registered trademarks with the
understanding that we wouldn't go after each other. But they wouldn't respond to that. I even tried to
gently, graciously point out to them several times that I didn't want to go to court,
but if we had to go to court, it would be expensive and I would win because I had 10 years
of professional usage already and they had nothing but a temporary website. I didn't point that out
to them. Finally, after nearly four years, their website disappeared and they stopped renewing
their trademark filing, which allowed my own trademark to finally go through. So I was so
excited that in January of this year, 2025, The Audacity to Podcast was finally a registered
trademark. Thank you, Gordon, so much for your work with that. And by the way, if you want to
hire Gordon, I earn nothing from that. He is legally not allowed to pay me, and yet I still
recommend him anyway because he did really good work for me. If you need a trademark or copyright
lawyer, definitely work with Gordon Firemark. I have his link in the notes for this and I earn
nothing except maybe a thank you from that because I truly believe in his services. That's why I
recommend him even though I don't get paid. Thankfully, I didn't have any of this trouble
though when I registered the trademark for podgagement and I hired Gordon for that too.
I started that process before I even announced the new name and that word didn't exist on the
internet before I coined it. So that one was really easy and went through rather quickly.
But The Audacity to Podcast took years because I waited too long to actually start the process.
So if I could go back into the past, I would have bought more Bitcoin and I also would have
registered The Audacity to Podcast as soon as I had the money to do it. Maybe if I had bought
more Bitcoin or knew that The Audacity to Podcast would be a major part of my business. Regret number
seven, trying to do things cheaply. Connects nicely to the previous one, doesn't it? Trying
to do podcasting things cheaply or free actually cost me a lot. I remember one time wasting several
hours, maybe even a couple of days, trying to figure out how to force my MacBook Pro to 1280
by 720 high DPI resolution because that, in my mind, was and still is the perfect resolution for
screen recordings because it's making the stuff on the screen large enough that people aren't
squinting to try and read anything. But also since it's in high DPI mode or retina mode,
it's actually recording at a much higher resolution. So you get the detail so you can
still export that video in 1080p or even a little bit bigger than that. Not fully 4K,
but you can still do good things and you can fit enough most of the time on 1280 by 720.
And I wanted my display on my MacBook Pro to be exactly that resolution.
And it took me days trying to figure out a way to hack this around because it wasn't
just a simple option due to the size of the screen on the MacBook Pro.
I could not make it that resolution unless I did all of this hacking and comparing things
and digging deep into code to find ID strings and all of this complicated stuff because
I did not want to spend $4 on an app.
that made it a two-click process.
$4, two clicks.
It would have taken me more clicks to buy the app
than to use it.
And it took me days to figure out a manual way.
And I was thinking, oh, I'll make a video about this.
And I realized, no, this is way too complicated
to teach anyone else.
No one else wants to go through this mess.
And I eventually gave up.
Even though I got my system working,
I gave up and realized,
I just need to spend the $4 on this.
There were other things like that.
I spent hours hacking together to do what I wanted because I didn't want to spend the
money for the solution.
Or sometimes, yeah, I didn't have the money and I was trying to do things that I couldn't
afford to do, afford both in time and money.
But my solutions were not actually cheap or free.
Like most free things, put quotation marks around that, they cost time and knowledge.
And I think they might have even cost me some brain cells and maybe even grain my hair if
I had any hair left.
I think ID3 Editor was my first purchase for only $15 that made me realize how much better
my workflow could be by investing where I needed it.
And it was a simple tool, but it made a lot of things so much easier.
By the way, I'm a reseller for ID3 Editor.
So if you'd like to buy that program, it's the best program, I think, for tagging your
mp3 files with the id3 tags for full compatibility with a lot of things still do use id3 tags if
you'd like to purchase that i have a link on my site for that i'd love to sell it to you i'm a
reseller so part of that profit does come to me this is not an affiliate thing i have a bunch of
licenses i'd love to sell and if you want to buy all of them you can but probably just one is enough
that's at theaudacitytopodcast.com and yes sometimes the things that i needed or still need
are or were simply too expensive. And so I had to or have to be resourceful. And you're probably in
that same place many times. But I've also learned that sometimes it's worth investing in something
or someone that will save me a whole lot of time or do things better than I could do them myself.
By the way, that's a big reason so many podcasters use podgagement. It's because of the amount of
time it saves them. And just think of mouth clicks alone. Now that podgagement does a whole lot more
than my podcast reviews used to do. The full subscription, if you subscribe to the Constellation
tier of Podgagement, it saves you more than 11 million clicks every day. Imagine clicking your
mouse 11 million times. Podgagement does all of that for you in seconds. So that saves time.
You could maybe try and do some of those things manually, but Podgagement does it so much faster.
Podgagement.com if you want to check that out. But moving on. Regret number eight, not publishing
more through other channels, including video. I'm not touching the whole video podcasting debate
right now, but I definitely regret not publishing more content, original or repurposed in many
places, including, but not only video. One of the things that held me back was a save it for the
podcast mentality that I felt like any new content ideas I had should be shared first or maybe even
exclusively in my podcast. Or I was thinking something like, why should I share this in only
a minute when there's so much more people need to know about this and it just wouldn't be doing it
justice to talk about it for only one or two minutes and I have so much more to teach about it.
So I should just save it for a full episode of the Audacity podcast. That way I can cover it
thoroughly. That was, and sometimes still is, my thinking many times. Another thing that held me
back was, we could call it, my obsession with excellence. That's kind of like one step below
perfectionism. I just couldn't stand publishing a video without good lighting and great audio.
By the way, it's now so much easier to get both of these things with modern smartphones,
and especially to get really good audio with amazing and affordable little microphones,
like the Hollyland Lark M2S. I love this little thing. I have recommended it so much at a
podcasting conference recently. I recommended it to at least a dozen other people, showed them
the little photo of it because it's such a great little wireless microphone that connects to a
computer or a smartphone or a tablet or a camera. It can do a lot of things. It's very tiny, very
smartly designed, no logos facing on the outside. Its design is very easy to use and intuitive so
people aren't accidentally sticking the brick of the wireless microphone pack outside of their
clothing when it's supposed to be inside their clothing. No logo showing. I love this little
thing. I've recommended it a lot. And full disclosure, the link in the notes is an affiliate
link. So I earn if you purchase through that. And when Hollyland learned how much I love the
microphone and was already recommending it, they actually gave me one as a thank you for how much
I've recommended the microphone. And I would have still bought one myself, especially recently when
there was an amazing sale on this microphone. So amazing that I had to send it out to everyone on
my email list because I love the microphone that much for some of these wireless things. And we're
not talking hundreds of dollars, $150 or less than that for this really amazing high quality
wireless microphone system. And stuff like that exists now. And now that that's possible to use
You can get much better audio in your mobile videos, run and gun style videos and things like that. But I wasn't thinking about stuff like that or didn't have those kinds of options back then. And so I simply didn't do a lot of things that I could have done back then.
And there was and still is some disdain for how some platforms work.
For example, I still abhor how TikTok mirrors video recorded into it so everything looks
backwards.
And I hated how many platforms would let you record for only seconds at a time requiring
lots of stops and starts or disjointed phrases.
And of course, I hated vertical video.
But I look back at all the profit, P-R-O-F-I-T, that's not just a spelling lesson, that stands
for popularity, relationships, opportunities, fun, income, or tangibles. And all of that that I missed
by not publishing in more places and putting the content out there and serving more podcasters in
more places and in more ways. I regret that. Regret number nine, not reaching out to press
about significant things. I live near Cincinnati and I've gotten press only once and it wasn't
even for my own accomplishments. I was featured in the Cincinnati Business Courier and on local TV
talking about podcasting because International Podcast Day was coming up, and I'm one of the
co-founders and organizers of it. But they didn't really focus all that much on me, and the
interview that they played on TV was a bit rough. They didn't work the audio the way that I told
them they should. And even in the interview, you know that cliche thing you sometimes see,
and he said, it's amazing. And then they switched to the person saying, it's amazing. That's
basically what they did with the interview. He says this, and it cuts to me saying exactly what
they just said I said. But nonetheless, besides that, I didn't try for any coverage when several
of my podcasts were nominated for awards. And I didn't try for any coverage both times the Audacity
to Podcast won the People's Choice Podcast Awards. And thank you so much if you supported me in those
podcast awards. I really, really deeply appreciate it. I did try for coverage when I was inducted
into the Podcast Hall of Fame, but I obviously didn't try hard enough because I didn't get any
coverage. I regret not being more proactive about these things when they were most timely.
Regret number 10, accepting sponsors. Did you know that I had some sponsors many years ago?
I accepted them because I saw the income potential, which wasn't all that much,
but I was kind of desperate for income back then.
But now I regret it because I should have focused more on creating and selling my own stuff,
which would have been much more profitable.
I'm not saying I'll never again have sponsors on The Audacity to Podcast,
but those past sponsors weren't even podcasting related.
For many years, I've said that I actually can't afford to have sponsors on my podcast.
The cost is too dang high.
In fact, I would rather read out gift notes from you than getting paid to promote some
other business.
So by the way, if you'd like to support what I do with The Audacity to Podcast, then I
have a link in the notes or go to theaudacitytopodcast.com/giveback so that you can give back
whatever value you feel The Audacity to Podcast is worth to you.
And if I do someday have sponsors on The Audacity to Podcast, you can bet they would be totally
podcasting related.
But again, I'm not sure I really want sponsors.
Regret number 11, not creating value for value opportunities for you, my audience.
This goes along really well with that sponsors thing.
I regret not embracing value for value or sometimes called V for V with a number four
in the middle.
Comedy Forecast would be so proud of that.
I regret not embracing that philosophy years ago.
And I call it a philosophy because this is not a Bitcoin thing.
It's not even a podcasting 2.0 thing.
Instead, it is a philosophy, a worldview, you could even call it.
It's a way of thinking that goes somewhat like this.
I'm giving you value through my podcast.
And in the Audacity to Podcasts case, that's education, maybe some entertainment, inspiration
and such.
And I can provide opportunities for you to consider what that is worth to you so that
you can give some of that value back.
You're giving value back for the value I give you.
Or you could say that I give you something of value, hoping that you will give value
in return.
That's why it's called value for value.
Coined by the guy who invented podcasting, Adam Curry, the podfather.
I did value for value, kind of, for my other podcasts.
But my big reason for not including it on The Audacity to Podcast is that I always felt
it would undermine my business or my calls to action for things because I have actual
things to sell, especially like podgagement.
That is my main business thing that I sell right now.
And sometimes I think I'd rather you go buy that from me and buy an actual product than
give me money for the free podcast.
But see, that's the wrong perspective because I am giving something a value.
And it took years for me to really embrace this concept.
And the podcasting 2.0 revolution really opened my eyes to this, especially when I did an
episode exploring the true worth of value for value when I was talking about micropayments
back in episode 371.
That value in value for value is community, relationships, and reciprocity.
That's why I now, or at least when I remember to, promote ways you can support the value I give you
through The Audacity to Podcast by giving back any amount you feel the podcast is worth. And you
could do that through theaudacitytopodcast.com/giveback, or you can do that through a
modern podcasting 2.0 app by streaming or sending boosted grams with satoshis, which are small
portions of Bitcoin. But you don't have to. But if you want to, I'm providing the way for you to do
that whatever you feel the podcast is worth to you or buy the things that I actually outright sell.
Regret number 12. Working solo for too long. I very much have the superhero syndrome that Chris
Ducker described in his book Virtual Freedom. I recommend that book. I've got a link to it in the
notes. That is an affiliate link but I read it a long time ago and it really impacted me positively.
It helped me to realize that I wanted to do everything in my business and to set aside
modesty for a moment. I was pretty good at most of it, but it took me a while to discover, and
especially the book, that I could buy back my time. And that reminds me of the title of another book
that I recommend on the same subject. It's called Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell. I'll have a
link to that in the notes too. So it took me a while to realize that I could buy back my time
by paying someone else to do the things I didn't want to do, or the things I couldn't do, or the
things I shouldn't do. In fact, it was Chris Ducker's book, Virtual Freedom, that inspired me
so much to finally hire someone to build for me the thing that I wanted to build for a couple of
years. And that was back in 2013 and then launched in 2014, my podcast reviews, which is now rebuilt
into podgagement. That's the most valuable thing my business sells right now. And it all started
by my realizing that I shouldn't be working solo like this. I also discovered the freedom it brought
when I hired a podcast editor and my first personal assistant in my business. Before these things,
I was definitely working solo for too long. And it's funny that while I was preparing this episode
and without his even knowing what this episode was going to be about, my podcast editor,
John Buchanis coined the term entrepeneur. Try and say that fast. Just one time, try and say it
fast. He defines it as this, a person who independently produces every aspect of their
podcast from start to finish, recording, editing, promoting, booking guests, uploading, and managing
the show without any outside help. That is entrepeneur. I love that. That's perfect. And if
you like that too, please show it some love. This is in Urban Dictionary now. So I've got the link
to that. Show John Buchanis some love by upvoting that definition on Urban Dictionary. I don't think
you even have to have an account on the site to vote that definition up. But I've got the link
in the notes for this episode. So please show him some love over there. And that is so true.
I understand sometimes that's just we do everything and that's all that we want to do.
and maybe we can't afford these other things, but in my own business, in my professional podcasting,
this was a regret that I worked solo for so long. That freedom when I hired someone else to do some
of these things for me was so wonderful. And anytime I get to do that kind of thing again,
it feels so great to delegate it to someone else who can do it for me, sometimes even doing it
better than I could. There's freedom in that. Regret number 13, using a cute and expensive
domain. I don't completely regret the name The Audacity to Podcast, especially now that it's
my registered trademark. But I do regret the domain I got for the podcast network that I
launched at the same time as I was launching The Audacity to Podcast, bringing my total number of
active podcasts at that time to three, which meant I had to have a network, right? Because if you get
that many podcasts. You have to start your own network. Oh, no, you don't. But that's what I was
thinking. But it was a bigger part of my vision for my business, my professional podcasting strategy
to have that network. And I went for a cute domain because I saw people using things like
.tv, .io, .ly, or having really creative stuff like the webpage bookmark service delicious.
If you don't remember what that is, maybe ask your parents. I don't know. But for a while,
their domain was del.icio.us. So that is the word delicious with some dots in the middle.
The way I'd always remember how to spell it out and type it is in my mind, I would say
del.icio.us. Delicious. Well, now it's delicious.com. And for me with my podcast network,
Unfortunately, that cute domain that I had in mind back then and used was expensive.
For the renewals, I didn't purchase it from someone else.
The renewals were expensive.
And since I hate letting domains go that I've ever spoken publicly,
I have to pay that expensive renewal fee every year for the rest of my life.
Well, in my mind at least.
Several years after I already started the network,
Then I realized a much cheaper and even more understandable domain.
So I switched to that domain, I think only a year or two before I just shut down the network.
Bitly is another example of this, by the way.
Their domain used to be bit.ly, but it's now simply bitly.com, B-I-T-L-Y dot com.
Regret number 14, getting involved with the wrong people.
I'm not going to name names here, but I've gotten involved with some bad people in the
past, and it turned out to cost me dearly in my professional and podcasting endeavors.
I'm actually still suffering repercussions from some of them.
I wish that I'd never pursued those things that I thought were great opportunities, even
though I did have concerns, because my concerns ended up being proven true.
And what really frustrates me about my mistakes is that when some of these things started
crashing down, especially one particular thing, I took them way too personally and
failed to stand up as strong as I should have and fight for the right things.
Lesson learned, never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line.
Regret number 15.
Building on that previous one, but also kind of a flip side of it, but this is certainly
not the least of my regrets. Not focusing more on relationships. I wish that I had focused more
on relationships with people. While this certainly has heavy ramifications outside of podcasting,
and I might do an episode about that someday in the future, I'm referring strictly to my
professional and podcasting pursuits in this context. While I see others building a bunch
of relationships, I've often spent more time on the content than on the people. Like with the
Audacity to Podcast, you've rarely heard me talk about my personal life or share personal things
that help you to get to know me as a person and what I like outside of podcasting, unless they
somehow totally relate to the subject at hand. The main reason for that is that I have this idea
stuck in my mind that you're not here for me. I could even say you don't care for me. And I'll put
that in quotation marks. You don't care for me, but you're here for what I teach. And so I self-filter
out a lot of stuff because I want to give you the content I promised to give you. And that is
podcasting, education, and inspiration. The guts, the tools, and all of that stuff that's part of my
slogan. But despite that, I still remember how many men and women did feel they had relationships
enough with me that they were there for me a few years ago when I went through a very, very difficult
time in my life. Countless people prayed for me and with me, sent me notes of encouragement,
checked in with me, and more. I especially remember a podcast movement I attended while
my emotional wounds were still very much bleeding, Mark Deal from Atlanta made it a point to give me
a hug every day of the conference. And that meant a whole lot to me because I needed every one of
those hugs. But I didn't learn until later that he's actually not a hugger. He actually does not
enjoy giving hugs. But he knew that I needed those hugs. Wow. And Emily Prokop sent me
some encouraging voicemails. One was just a kind of, I'm there for you. Don't give up.
Don't lose hope. You're special. I care about you. And encouraging like that. And the other
voicemail was, she specifically said, save this for when you're ready to hear it. It was a kind
of get your butt back to work. You're good at what you do. You need to do more of it kind of thing.
And both were very encouraging and very much what I needed to hear. And at that same podcast movement,
she was the only person. I was very much trying to hold it together at the conference, hold it
together emotionally and not cry and everything. But she was the only person who broke through the
shell that I was keeping around myself at that time because of her warm kindness and compassion.
And she made me cry.
Not like she was trying to make me cry.
She wasn't mean.
It was because of her kindness and compassion.
And as an odd side note, as another part of this, I even debated naming these people.
But I can't quite explain why that was even a debate in my mind.
Because I thought, oh, I need to focus more on the content, not so much the relationships.
But relationships are important.
They're even part of profit.
P-R-O-F-I-T.
It's the second one in there.
Relationships.
And I regret not focusing more on relationships.
And I've lost plenty of relationships over the years, especially these past few years.
Some of those are my fault.
Some are the faults of others, despite my attempts at friendship.
And some are from misunderstandings and false judgments.
So there you have it.
15 regrets from 15 years of professional podcasting through The Audacity to Podcast.
I hope that you can learn.
And it's okay if you want to laugh at my mistakes.
so that you won't make the same ones.
Because in everything I do through my podcast
and in my business,
I want to, you know what's coming,
I want to give you the guts
and teach you the tools
so that you can start and grow your own podcast
for passion and profit.
I'm Daniel J. Lewis from theaudacitytopodcast.com
and if you have been with me
through the hiatuses, through the mistakes,
And especially if you've been with me for the last 15 years of this podcast.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
And thanks for listening.